No 8. C C 17C15987 H/C, Carter Pancho, again the very best from Paul. Sire Short Sighted Already sire 1st & 2nd WY Fed 1,101b. Son Short Story x De 374 original Heremans Ceusters. Dam 09Z58370 Puzzle Marina V.D Velde, full sister to three brothers, all breeding Fed winners for Paul Carter, terrific Samson lines.